stevie22, Jan 16, 2021 #10. mack4165 New Member. Jord86, Apr 3, 2018. 25mm seems safe. Laying 20. Saved to Project List. I am looking for a screwfix product that I can use without lifting current floorboards. DPM, tapered firrings set at 400mm centres with sharp sand in between, 130mm TF70 kingspan then 22mm weyrock. rogerk101 Screwfix Select. If you do happen to replace the flooring then I'd recommend using 22mm board and to prevent creaks use D4 Adhesive too. 51 per metre. I've been buying water resistant 22mm T&G-all-round chipboard flooring boards (600 x 2400) from Buildbase for £8. I've used it today to cut a section out of my 22mm chipboard flooring and it really struggled. I've used it today to cut a section out of my 22mm chipboard flooring and it really struggled. Yes glue all the joints with PVA adhesive, it stiffens the floor and helps to prevent it creaking. I've had a new extension added to my kitchen and had the existing outside wall removed. 2/3 of the t&g has been removed from. 2. From trade packs for commercial tradespeople to individual packs for domestic use, there's something for every job. The current ones are going on 18mm ply,. I believe they recommend 6 for floors and 12 for walls. Start in the corner furthest away from where you want to finish. Prices from. The spec of chipboard floors is normally poor for tiling on, there is normally movement. you should not tile direct onto a chipboard floor as the tiles will not stay put for to long, you will need to either get some 12mm marine ply and screw down every 200mm OR you get a hardy backer board 6mm and a flexible tile adhesive screed the floor with the tile adhesive then put the hardy backer board on top. geo-d New Member. The high-strength structural particleboard is CE marked and engineered for all domestic and specific. Screwfix Community Forum. 19 Inc VAT. Existing floor is 22mm chipboard. Delivery. The bathroom is fully fitted, so I do not intend to lift the chipboard and replace it with ply. 22mm P5 Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring T&G 2400mm x 600mm (8' x 2') URN: 4005002. East End, Glasgow. Jord86 Screwfix Select. I need 5 sheets of 18mm and 5 sheets of 22mm. We have recently erected an extension and knocked through from the existing house. I think my plan is now to lift up existing timber floor boards and put down a new tongue and groove chipboard floor of the same thickness (22mm). Moisture resistant. Use 400mm spacing between battens and get them all as level as possible in both directions. all joints glued. (0) $58 . Administrator Trade Member Author Offline Ask The Trades Posts: 8812 Total Thanks: 108 For This Post: 0. I used tongue tite screws which have started to fail ☹️ in places. Then nothing above so a good 6” gap to the boards. Bundle Deal - View Offer. 2m sheets, they were bouncy, creaking and had big gaps but the joists were fine. Wickes P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring - 18 x 600 x 2400mm. ) I've tiled directly onto 22mm waterproof chipboard in 5 bathrooms and 1 kitchen and all are still good many years on. Pre-grooved 22mm P5 MR Chipboard (1200x600x22mm) either with or without reflective foil. cant belive a joiner would lay normal 22mm t&g chipboard flooring and allow it to be exposed to the elements. £25. Best screws for 22mm chipboard flooring on 2” joists? Ian H 19 Oct 2020 Ian H Joined 14 Sep 2010 Messages 7,035 Reaction score 874 Location Rochdale. You'll need 1mm for the DPM, 40mm for the insulation, 22mm for the chipboard and whatever for the final flooring (e. £13. BMC2000 and KIAB like this. Sorry to jump on this thread but I have pretty much the same question. Buy 22 mm Hole Saws at Screwfix. There are two ways of doing this. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to. 2 per board (plank) into every joist spaced approximately 1/4 of the width of the plank in from each edge. Either 400 centres and 18mm Osb flooring, or 600 centres and 22mm Osb or ply flooring, can also use chipboard but make sure it's P5 rated. My plan is to lay dpm, 120mm PIR with bearers in front of doors, 22mm t&g chipboard floating floor, electric ufh mat, 10mm self levelling compound making sure it’s very flat. It stops floorboard creaking due to a very firm fixation with the Heco-Unix full-thread screw. 10 screws, but Screwfix only seem to supply up to no. Thanks, they say 18mm for 400mm centres and 20mm for 600. Followed by vinyl. ) I've tiled directly onto 22mm waterproof chipboard in 5 bathrooms and 1 kitchen and all are still good many years on. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > suspended floor tg floorboards how to remove ribs/humps. what i did was set circular saw to 17mm and cut through floor as close to walls as i could. Lectrician Screwfix Select. Durable, high-density moisture-resistant P5 grade chipboard flooring. 5 joists, so staggering the boards either side,will support the half board. Pollowick Screwfix Select. What are your thoughts regarding screws for 22mm P6 chipboard flooring. Remember to wear safety glasses and with fibre boards a face mask. g. Plywood. Includes TX20 bit. your access problem should be dealt with by using "routabout"= jig for. All the joints should be glued; glue on the joists is not always done but I usually run some PVA along them (same glue as the joints). They squeak a lot. end up using sander, easy job . Cutting Width (Kerf): 1. VAT. 25mm seems safe. DIYDave. It is generally used in flooring applications as the construction of the board adds strength when boards are slotted together and screwed or nailed down to floor joists. Order Spax TX Countersunk Self-Drilling Flooring Screw 4. . Zinc-Plated &. The sheets use high-density particleboard and are suitable for both domestic and commercial flooring. The floor is limited head height, so overboarding isn't a preferred option. As is 8x2 T&G 22mm chipboard flooring easy to work with. I was thinking of using floor-tite screws following quite a few recommendations and reviews from Screwfix/Ebay/Amazon and Youtube (Ultimate Handyman video 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4 EGGER Protect is manufactured from an EGGER P5 flooring grade particleboard with a unique, weather resistant surface layer applied to both the top and underside of the board. This is a job for a circular saw. £41. e 62. For example, room is 4m long exactly (4000mm). Chipboard Screws. 24-Groove Countersunk for a Smooth & Flush Finish. pooh New Member. saturday most shut at around 12. Shop our range of Particle Board Flooring at warehouse prices from quality brands. The first 2 joists which are under where we were hoping to put them are that span, then next one spans. uk. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Who sells 20mm chipboard? Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by FUNDIMOLD, Oct 30, 2021. Inc. These engineered particleboard sheets are load-bearing and offer increased resistance to humid conditions. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4. Please accept or refuse the saving of functional cookies by selecting one of the. For chipboard flooring. £0. Spiral point, part thread and under-head ribs for self-countersinking. 5 2. Jord86 Screwfix Select. EGGER Protect’s P5 core is the first structural chipboard product in the market to be tested for fire resistance to BS EN 1365-2:2014 when incorporated into a floor construction. 60; so £12 for the 18mm seems a bit on the expensive side. Get great value and great versatility with our range of chipboard and oriented strand board (OSB). 22mm T&G flooring chipboard is typically utilised in. Screwfix Community Forum. Inc. MDF board and hardboard are suitable for a number of interior joinery jobs, including cabinetry and flooring, and are available in a range of sizes. A. Use a straight edge and pencil to mark the cut line. Secure Your Home. 51 per metre. This price could be lower if you shop around. I tend to get about 3 boards per tube of adhesive and use 15 No More Ply screws per board spaced about every 300mm. 3 I've always found that it's always better to lift large sections of the stuff rather than pittle about with lifting small sections. The cost is £37. Screwfix Community Forum. Buy Chipboard at B&Q - Order online or check stock in store. PLEASE CALL 0161 425 3030 for a Quote. 300mm is way more than you need. Once it's down it's down and if it starts to squeak you're stuffed. It’s 22mm P5 chipboard over 100mm PIR. VAT. Cut along the nail line with a circular saw set at the same depth as the chipfloor. OSB. and a £7 difference!Hence any remedial work will have to be done by removing the existing floor boards. You'd need to varnish/oil it. 0 X 60mm screws but have just discovered a Spax floorboard screw. #4. 1. She has 2 machines which weigh 78kg each. Suitable for Handheld Saws. 22mm waterproof chipboard costs £8 per sheet of 2400mm x 600mm, which works out at £144. CGN Screwfix Select. The Chipboard Flooring Boards for use to overlay existing flooring or as a loft board for storage. Attach a piece of timber to the joist to support the edge of the new floor. The ply will be a waste of time: just do 22mm and floor will be good and solid. mdf is not designed to support loads and if you were to use standard mdf if you had any kind of leak or spill it would puff up. Chipboard panels designed specifically to prevent the surface spread of flames and prevent the ignition of flames. 2) The surface must be clean and free of grit/dirt. is he a real joiner ?after 2 weeks in the elements go and have a look at the joints and the cut edges and see how much they swell up. 6 size. com. The MDF for floorboards could be call HDF as it's denser than the usual stuff. The engineered planks will have a clear top coat that is maintenance free and washable. The P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring is a dependable and long-lasting flooring solution that boasts both durability and moisture resistance. #4. Will be replacing the old boards which are full of gaps having been ripped up too many times, with 18mm flooring grade chipboard. 99 Inc Vat. Suitable for glued or nailed wood flooring. I’ve been to a lot of builders merchants and they all say caberfloor on them . They are rated C24. A few have stocks which they sell individually but they are too far away from me to deliver (Gloucester area). the existing floor alongside the nearest joist, against the side that's away from the wall. If they will not shift, then go for T&G and insist it is correctly laid. The resulting powder combines with more resin and is molded, pressed, and dried. The garage slopes slightly at the end (where the garage door used to be) so need to level the floor. 04kg: Product width: 600mm: Standard: EN 13986:2004: Timber type: Softwood: Timber grade: Std grade: Texture:. c New Member. I appreciate that chipboard isn't the ideal surface to tile on, however laying down 18mm of ply on top of it, plus the tiles would raise the floor too far to be anything close to practical. Stripped out old kitchen and lamintate floor to reveal several cracks - rubbish slab really. OSBF01. 75mm Jaw Depth. Chipboard flooring. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Tilers' Talk > Hardiebacker and Ply. Menu Shop by room. Supplied in a handy tub. In some of the smaller rooms, we will remove the timber floorboards and replace them with tongue and groove chipboard. I'm fitting the tray at floor level with the waste going under the boards. Get it Tuesday, Jan 31. So recently fitted 100mm recticle/cellotex. I'd have thought that 22mm moisture-resistant chipboard would be both the easiest to fit and the most suitable. Zinc-Plated & Yellow-Passivated. 30 day money back guarantee. No pilot holes required making the job a little quicker. Product code. I've used it today to cut a section out of my 22mm chipboard flooring and it really struggled. 1st floor bathroom, previously 22mm t&g chipboard, 600mm joist centres, 2440mm sheets layed across the width of the house before the stud walls placed on top. £299. 04 mm/m/deg C which equates to 3-4mm across a 5m room with a temperature range of 20 degrees - easy to achieve between winter and summer with the sun on the floor! - MDF is more stable @ around 0. Nylon. £15. What happens is that joiners push the screws too deep into the joist and leave the screw embedded in the softer core of the chipboard. Joists are at 600mm, T&G chipboard 22mm @ 600mmX3000mm. Beginning on August 24, 2023, all professionals and industrial users. com. Thes materilas will add up to the cost of getting it screeded. 50mm x 2400mm x 1200mm Recticel Eurothane GP Insulation Board. Add to Cart. Brand new 100‰ treated Chipboard flooring water resistant P5 18mm x 2400mm x 600mm £17 each 22mm thick £18 each Foil loft insulation also available Collection and delivery available Contact Andy on 07800-75-11-47 . Screwfix customers rate this product 4. 22mm Chipboard Flooring is a high strength wood particle boards, manufactured and engineered for all domestic most other floors, this is the most commonly used flooring board in the UK. Quick-Release Screw Magazine. £18. Anyway my brother wants to nail a 20mm strip on to the 150 x 50 Floor Joists to bring the level up as I wont be replacing the joists!. theguildmaster New Member. Re: Laying 18mm T&G chipboard flooring. ] < Flooring Screws Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. My understanding having taken a lot of opinion is that I need to: - prime the chipboard (with something like BAL Prime APD)Screwfix Community Forum. High-quality moisture resistant flooring with a P5 grading; Tongue and groove design for quick and easy installation and added strength; 22mm thick boards for use with joists spaced up to 600mm apart; This chipboard is manufactured from recycled wood so reducing the need for landfill disposal Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select I try to avoid unsupported edges, even with T&G, yes I know that the edges that cross the joists are unsupported, but only in the same way as floor boards. Paslode Nails. Now the house is built the chipboard is. Inc. Regards, AlexThe whole building frame is sat on a single course of bricks on a 100mm concrete slab so theres no floor joist system. vespat5, Jun 5, 2004 #1. Cuts Softwood, Chipboard, Brick, Soft Tiles, Fibre Plastics, GFK & CFK. 5 x 25mm or possibly the 4 x 25mm from Screwfix. 6 size screws. Someone suggested a T&G glued ply floating floor over Kingspan/Cellotex insulation. FlyByNight Screwfix Select. Not a screw but have you tried No-Nails and stick em on? Charlie Far!ey, Jun 5, 2004 #2. This screw has a thread then neck then thread; anyone ever used them? I’ve just taken up a load of 18mm chipboard 2. I would like to fit my new showertray directly onto 6mm Backerboard that is sitting on 22mm t&g chipboard, i'm not sure how i would plumb in the waste for the shower, at what point do i do this? When the showertray is fitted there will be no access under the flooring so im not sure how this will work, can anyone help? 5. electric cables ,water pipes etc are never far away. £18. I recently used 12mm backer for a floor - joists were are less than 300mm centres (nearer 250) and in between was the solid insulation for wet-underfloor heating so well supported. Loft legs, if installed well so they can't move, might just take a persons weight but its stretching it. Pollowick Screwfix Select. Glue the tongue and grooves too. 5 or 5mm X 45mm would be my choice in this instance (would. stevie. Log in or Sign up. Best Screws for Floorboards - Heco-Unix Floorboard Screw. Laminate, engineered, solid or tiles worse. Three boards down, board clamps on each (or alternate) joist to push. They should not cause splitting of the boards below even when close to an edge or end and the heads should self countersink. The blade (24 teeth) is quite burnt, and the saw kept stalling. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. The fitting instructions aren't clear, but say to remove "suspended" flooring & replace with 18mm marine ply, before bedding the tray on sand & cement. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by RK Joiner, May 12, 2008. In the unlikely event that you should need them, our Customer Service Team is available from Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm, 9am - 3pm on Saturday, and 8am - 1pm on Bank Holidays. Once the glue is dried just drop the small piece back in and fix with. Fit and screw down, then when you need access, unscrew the boards and lift out. Brochure Kronobuild Brochure UK Kronobuild brochure. Ordinary wood glue will be adequate if you have to glue the joints (if anything else is. Show More. 83 m2 for 18mm chipboard flooring. The flooring is 22mm chipboard. Mikey s, Jul 18, 2021. £20. rogerk101 Screwfix Select. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Caberfloor P5 Tongue and Grooved Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring TG4. 18mm chipboard floor 22mm laminate and underlay 100mm 6x2 joists (25mm of underside ceiling) 75mm off the ridge for collar ties / downlights New head height = 2110 (6ft 11) In regards to rafters my friend who works for LABC sent me this; 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Peelclean Xtra Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4. . number 4 New Member. Moisture resistant. this stops squeek noise and. FSC ® Certified. Or buy as many packs of screws your budget can afford and divide the number screws by the number of boards so you use all the screws. 1000s of DIY supplies. hallbeck, Jan 23,. #6. What are your thoughts regarding screws for 22mm P6 chipboard flooring. It was nailed down and I added 40mm screws when I moved in (all I had under lockdown). £25. #2. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. Deleted member 246321 likes this. Will hope to lay chipboard directly above - would I need 18 or 22mm floorboards?I lightly spray the floor first with water and apply 2 concentric rectangular rings around the board and a final straight line across the middle. Was £14. My work will be (in order of layers): 1) DPM 1000 gauge with joints taped with Polythene joint tape. HandyAndy - Really. £22. 42 per m. For loft where floor was a lot bigger, and less issues with movement I put in a lot lot less. Scoob56, May 15, 2022. FSC ® Certified. read carfully I wrote that chipboard isn't suitable for nailing to, It's too brittle and nails work loose over time. Find your nearest Screwfix store and up to date opening times. They squeak a lot. Log in to buy. I can see where some have been replaced historically, they just used what looks like pine. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. co. How much height have you got to play with from concrete floor, to finished height of floor. Clear all. Astravan man , Sinewave is correct. I think bite the bullet, rip it up and install 22 T&G flooring chipboard. Tile Adhesive & Grout Thresholds Floor Paints Flooring Screws Double Sided Tape Underfloor Heating Buy Flooring at Screwfix. I’ll be laying insulation boards and ufh mat then laminate on top. "Purchased these flooring screws to lay a 22mm chipboard floor. Caberfloor Moisture Resistant Chipboard is an internal high-density floor panel, used extensively in new house builds and refurbishment projects. 5mm x 60mm 300 Pack at Screwfix. Im thinking: DPM Levelling compound (flexible one) 2-3mm 50mm insulation board Chip board (approx) 22mm does this sound right?ex. You can get T&G OSB3 but not as readily available and not sure if any benefit in using this - either on quality or price. The chipboard sheets will be installed with the shortest side (width) centred on top of a joist. Screw and glue the floor down and it wont squeak at all. The floor has dropped under the stud wall by about 6mm (in the middle of the. After doing some research, it seemed that 22mm chipboard just wasn’t going to work as a base for the tile. Browse from our wide range of sheet materials ideal for interior or exterior projects. 8"x2". Over the years, I've done both --- 22mm chipboard and 18mm plywood --- and the former has produced much more solid feeling floors than the latter. Checking floor levels has revealed a 50mm lower floor level that will need to be brought up to the new level. For use with high density fibre boards. Chipstick D4 PU Foaming Chipboard Flooring Glue - High Performance Expanding Wood Adhesive - 1KG. £18. Delivery is offered or collections can be made from our depot for savings. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4. I am looking to meet the new extension floor and existing floors by laying 22mm T&G chipboard onto the concrete floor. Loft boards. Jablite comes in different thicknesses and chipboard in 18 or 22mm so you should be able to get the required lift. 4m and cost around a 12 quid. No brainer. I could have used DPM but had the bitumen left over from something else. Set the blade depth to just less than the thickness of the board and slice down the flooring above two adjacent joists just to the inside of the nail line. 11. Features and benefits. 4Ltr (169FE) compare. Screwfix Community Forum. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Kronospan P5 Tongue and Grooved Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring TG4. Bear in mind that 15mm plasterboard is bleedin' heavy!!Chipboard flooring panel with an attached acoustic layer on the underside to reduce both impact and airborne transmitted sounds. Medium-Density Fibreboard, commonly known as MDF, and hardboard, also known as HDF, are engineered fibreboard with a smooth surface - ready for finishing. Chipboard has no real strength going sideways, so the boards will pull away from any fixings within about 10mm of an edge with relative ease. On top of this, but not directly on a joist is built a stud wall going in the same direction as the joists. Choose from top trade brands. Click & Collect. Approx dimensions 2. It has a good, level concrete floor base. jizzard_of_oz, Mar 17, 2008. This will help to ensure that your vinyl tiles go on well, and produce decent finish. Screwfix Select. Is there much difference between Caberfloor vs Wikes? They're the same rating but one is branded and has a green coating. My thoughts are to attach new joist to the exist joist, to stiffen the old joist and provide a level surface then cover with either 22mm 'Green Chipboard' or 18mm WPB Ply with Noggins at the board joints. Jord86, Sep 6,. VAT) Quick view. the chipboard’s nice and flat, apart from one slight (maybe 3mm) dip along part of one of the joins between t&g panels. Screw down as you suggested, and as Sinewave has mentioned. From stylish vinyl and laminate flooring to unique, patterned floor tiles and classic parquet, Wickes flooring offers a quality and durable finish for every space. Delivery 7 days a week Over 40,000 products. Relaid with 22mm T&G, glued the joists, the tongue and the groove and used lots of spax chipboard screws and it’s amazing how solid it feels now! The joists are 8" x 2", 450mm apart and span about 3m. conjunction with fitting EGGER Flooring grade chipboard (see Fitting Notes on page 3 ). Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. #2. . Delivery information. 09 for 22mm. Screwfix Community Forum. insulation and strapping screwed and glued to some 22mm chipboard flooring. £54. 00. The 18/22mm deep chipboard, mainly in the corridoors but basically all over the house, are nailed down with 25mm long tack nails. Beam and thermal block flooring has a fairly reasonable insulation value to begin with, so you shouldn’t need to add as much as 100mm of PIR insulation on top. Structural board for creating a new floor over existing flooring or over joists. £ 17. Get 10% off - View Offer. Weight. 012mm/m/deg C, so I expect chipboard is in a similar range,. john i did something like this the other week. i dont like it, it warps when wet, adhesive doesent adhere properly and its basically ****. Add to trolley. The 18/22mm deep chipboard, mainly in the corridoors but basically all over the house, are nailed down with 25mm long tack nails. I've blinded my slab level with sharp sand, so. Smooth sanded surface. Sold & shipped by B&Q. These Chipboard Floorboards come in two sheets sizes, 18mm X 2400mm X 600mm Chipboard Flooring and 22mm X 2400mm X 600mm. Hi, so I have just had a company in to install LVT flooring in several upstairs rooms (which I'm very pleased with) and as part of the process they put 6mm plywood over the 22mm chipboard covering the joists and secured the ply. Yes, he tiled it straight onto chipboard with flexi adhesive. Structural board for creating a new floor over existing flooring or over joists.